Political Allocation. Aug 7, 2008 #1 F. foreign Well-Known Member. Announced in 1958, the .264 and .338 Winchester magnums hit the market in 1959 amid one of the... For decades, things were quiet on the .22 centerfire front. Similar Threads: Thread: Thread Starter: Forum: Replies: Last Post: … The 7mm-08 Remington shares the same 20-degree shoulder angle and datum line of the.308 Winchester, but the case measures 2.035 inches versus the.308’s 2.015 inches. Switch to Threaded Mode . Typical .308 bullets have more frontal surface area and carry more energy down range though. Since the 7mm-08 and .308 share the same parent case with almost identical capacities, this is more a battle of 7mm versus .30 caliber projectiles than it is about case design. All Rights Reserved. OSG's Lynn Burkhead and Ruger's Matt WIlson kick off SHOT Show 2018 by taking a look at the Ruger Predator. You can expect to pay between $1.25 and $1.50 per shot on average. Didn't mean to rub it in. For the 7mm-08 vs .308, there is not a whole lot of differences in their applications. .545, zeroed at 230 yards. To get started, click the link below to visit mymagnow.com and learn how to access your digital magazine. The 7mm-08 Remington cartridge was introduced in the 1980s. Go. The .300 Blackout is here to stay, and we take some time to look at new technology surrounding this cartridge. I have a sportered swede 94 (got it after it had been chopped by somebody else!) Wondering what gun kicks harder 7mm-08 or a .270, thinking about what gun to get my wife. advantage over the .308 load and shoots half-an-inch flatter at that distance when zeroed at 200 yards. Subscriber Services. Merry Christmas & Happy New Year HT! Do any of you have experience using a 7mm-08 on Black Bears? Again. Joined Sep 27, 2010 Messages 7,612 Location tn. I can not decide whether to buy a 6.5 Creedmoor, 7mm-08, or .308. Commercial hunting loads for the 7mm-08 have bullets that range up to 160 grains while .308 ammunition tops at about 185 grains, and with bullets from 150 to 160 grains, the 7mm-08 will outperform the .308. We will be comparing two of the highest B.C. 2 reasons for this, one being the 7mm BC is hands down way better then.30 cal, and for two, smaller calibers with smaller bullets are usually faster, couple this with the better BC and it becomes easy to see why the 7-08 is better then the.308 The shoulder origin distance and overall case length are slightly adjusted to maintain a case neck that is at least one bullet diameter in length. bullets on today's market.This doesn't mean the 308 Win. SIG SAUER adds to its Elite Match ammo line with the 30-06 Springfield. The .30 caliber remains the most popular bullet diameter for U.S. hunters, and as such, there are more bullet options. If you stop at the local gas and grocery store to pick up ammo, your odds of finding .308 are better than your chances of finding 7mm-08 ammo. Add a .308 or .30-06 to the aforementioned 7mm-08 and .300 Win. would  "...out shoot your 7m08 or 260 all day with my 308 178 gr at 1000 yards. Ballistically the 7-08 is hands down the better LR cartridge then the.308 Win. Next Last. "No, it wouldn't. My … Discussion Starter • #1 • Dec 21, 2017. In truth, these are both great cartridges. The 308 Winchester -- efficient and popular though it may be -- just can't outmuscle its descendent, the 7mm-08. Given these two projectiles of the same weight fired at the same velocity, the 7mm bullet will buck wind better, shoot flatter and penetrate deeper. That being said, if I were a "one gun" person and planned on hunting both deer sized game and heavier animals I would opt for the .308. It's an all around cartridge because it's good for long … .....Either will work fine. 1 of 2 Go to page. Remember, B.C. A 7mm-08 load with a maximum charge of IMR 4895 powder will push a 150-grain Partition bullet at 2,750 fps from the muzzle, according to Nosler’s Reloading Guide 8. I have a Stevens 200 with 22" barrel. Thread starter Mainer207; Start date Oct 22, 2019; Oct 22, 2019 #1 Mainer207 Active member. And there you have it, the winner and still champion, 7mm-08! ©2020 Outdoor Sportsman Group. Copyright Ron Spomer Outdoors © document.write(new Date().getFullYear()) The .30-30 Win. Next, we pit subsonic rivals against each other before stretching the legs of this CQB round out to 600 yards from a short 9-inch barrel. Thread starter knightrider; Start date Aug 5, 2016; 1; 2; Next. Aug 6, 2016 #2 ImThere Well-Known Member. But with the right type of bullets, the Remington could take down small and medium deer with ease. They are long and heavy for caliber. 11-21-2010, 09:54. Basically, Remington intended the caliber to be able to provide lesser recoil than a .308 while still being large and powerful enough to kill wild North American game effectively at long distances. Some prefer the 7mm and some would prefer the 308. Now, the gentleman himself and his rifle might prove more accurate than I and my rifle, but his 308 Winchester, even with a high B.C. 6.5 Creedmoor As standardized, 7mm-08 case dimensions stay very close to the .308 Win. The… Switch to Hybrid Mode. with some of the sleekest, most efficient, low-drag, high B.C. The 7mm-08 Remington shoots lighter, smaller diameter, and more aerodynamic bullets with a higher sectional density faster than bullets used by the .308 Winchester. It also spawned an entire family of cartridges. The 7/08 is a little flatter shooting, while the 308 offers a more versatile bullet weight selection from 110gr to 220 gr. In a 0.308 round in use, 7mm-08 takes a close second place in polarity with 0.243 Winchester is taking the first spot. is a product of a projectile's mass (weight,) form (shape,) and diameter. LuJon. The .308 comes closer to 7mm-08 trajectories with heavier bullets, but at the cost of increased recoil over the 7mm cartridge. This means you have the option to read your magazine on most popular phones and tablets. It ticks people off, as revealed in the comments posted on my You Tube video that compares the 7mm-08 Remington, 308 Winchester and 260 Remington.I guess if I owned a rifle in 308 Winchester and loved it to pieces, I'd resent some smart ass like Spomer pointing out that there are better options. Please note, the following information reflects the estimated average ballistics for each caliber and does not pertain to a particular manufacturer, bullet weight, Cartridge Celebrates 125 Years, Berger Long Range Hybrid Target Bullet Review, Delta 5 - Daniel Defense's New Precision Bolt Action Rifle, Ruger Launches New American Rifle Predator in 6.5 Grendel, Tactical Solutions Introduces New X-Ring Takedown SBR Rifle. It could be argued the .308 is better suited for large game thanks to heavier bullets, but it could also be argued the 7mm-08, with its lighter, faster, flatter-shooting bullets and less recoil, is better for medium game and varmints. Powder capacity remains the same, so the 7mm-08 propels a lighter, narrower, higher B.C. I see lots of shooters like the like the 7mm-08 for reduced recoil. However, why stop at two guns when you could buy three? In the above comparison, the 162-grain Hornady ELD-Match wins because its more ballistically efficient AND lighter weight. The following ammunition cartridge ballistics information and chart can be used to approximately compare .30-30 Winchester vs 7mm-08 Remington ammo rounds. But why? Dec 24, 2016 #2 F. F250 Well-known member. The .308 comes closer to 7mm-08 trajectories with heavier bullets, but at the … Yes, there are plenty of new and used 7mm-08s, but the number doesn’t begin to approach the vast array of .308s. .652, zeroed at 230 yards. A 150-grain .308 Partition, by contrast, has a G1 BC of just .387 and an SD of .226. loads, compared to just 27 7mm-08s. 308 Winchester, Hornady 178-grain ELD-X, B.C. 7mm-08 vs 308. 7mm-08 vs .308 win? Hey ya’ll, I have a bear tag along with my NY deer tag, and I’ve got a few spots where the bears seem to be showing up a lot on camera. I'm merely shining the hard light of reality onto what is often a murky world -- the world of centerfire rifle cartridges and ballistic performance. Click on a term to search for related topics. It has earned a reputation as a "giant killer" in Washington from those who are using it on the big elk up there. I also really like the 6.5x55 Swede - I think that's about the ideal deer sized caliber. Joined Dec 9, 2011 Messages 706 Location Vermont. The .222 Rem. Thread starter foreign; Start date Aug 7, 2008; Help Support Long Range Hunting : Join the LRH Team or . Nothing personal against the 308 Winchester. All RifleShooter subscribers now have digital access to their magazine content. A max charge of the same powder will push a 150-grain .308 Partition bullet at 2,802 fps. Good round for younger folks, women and those with physical problems. Guns and ammo are just the tools. |   7mm-08 vs .270 11-21-2010, 09:46. Wind drift for the 7mm-08 load is 2.4 inches less at 400 yards than it is for the .308, too. But that doesn't make it better than the 7mm-08.A viewer recently wrote that his 308 Win. I would expect them to be pretty similar with the 7-08 offering perhaps a bit more versatility in loads for moose. It hits harder than the .30-30 but drops and drifts a lot less. and the more effectively that bullet will resist atmospheric drag. 7mm-08 Remington, Hornady 162-grain ELD Match, B.C. bullet faster. Powder capacity remains the same, so the 7mm-08 propels a lighter, narrower, higher B.C. The .308 case gave wildcatters fresh clay to sculpt, and within a decade of the .308’s release, somebody came up with the 7mm-.308, a necked-down version of the .308 that held 7mm bullets. Tags: None. The 7mm-08 case is just the 308 case necked down to hold the narrower bullet. With the new Hunter rifle, Ruger takes its popular Ruger American rifle line to the next level. Thread Tools: Show Printable Version. The cartridge offered ballistics that nipped at the .30-06’s heels from a shorter action, and that made the .308 a popular chambering option for bolt-action, semiauto, lever-action and slide-action rifles. is not only a classic round. The 7mm08 is often promoted as having a flatter trajectory than the parent .308 while producing less recoil. In terms of cost, both of these rounds are similarly priced. Between the .308 and 7mm-08, which would you choose and why? 1; 2; 3; Next. Go. I've been shooting a Weatherby Vanguard in .270 Win for a couple of years now since I first started getting into shooting. This efficient little round is capable of taking any game in the world -- and probably already has. Mag. What was the main appeal of the 7mm at the time? It's just that the 7mm-08 Remington a more ballistically efficient cartridge.Perhaps I should apologize for pointing this out so often (like in this blog.) Like the 7mm08, the .308 can be loaded with a range of high BC projectiles which produce desirable trajectories and both are exceptionally useful cartridges. Let's hear it pros and cons . If you dive into the historical developments of the 6.5 Creedmoor round vs the 7mm-08, you will notice how the cartridges are somehow related to .308 Winchester. It can't help but win.While Ron Spomer enjoys investigating the relative performance characteristics of different cartridges, rifles and bullets, he'll happily shoot and hunt with any. Aug 5, 2016 #1 K. knightrider Active Member. The 7mm-08’s best “feature” is its near perfect balance of speed, penetration, handiness, and tolerable recoil almost identical to a .308 Win. Listed by caliber, here's a look at what big game rifle cartridges are trending upward, and... Give a Gift   is no good and you should kick yourself for owning one. Yes, the 7mm-08 defeats 308. New 30-06 Springfield Elite Match Ammo from SIG SAUER, .222 Remington Rifle Cartridge – Family Portrait, .30-30 Win. And it won against a bullet 16 grains heavier, which means less recoil in rifles of the same weight.Oops. Hey, I'm sorry, but physics is physics and truth is truth. Commercial hunting loads for the 7mm-08 have bullets that range up to 160 grains while .308 ammunition tops at about 185 grains, and with bullets from 150 to 160 grains, the 7mm-08 will outperform the .308. In 1980, Remington decided there was consumer demand for a commercial version of the 7mm-.308 wildcat, and the 7mm-08 Rem. 1 of 3 Go to page. Winchester launched its .308, the sporting version of the 7.62x51 NATO military round, in 1952. My wife has taken elk and whitetails with hers in the Browning X … Joined Jan 3, 2019 Messages 205 Location New York . When you get out past 300 yards, the stopping power is still there, but the changes in trajectory … Rifleshooter Online Editors - April 03, 2019. Joined Jun 26, 2008 Messages 424 Location christchurch, nz. The .300 Magnum would be better on the biggest game than the top four and the 7mm-08 would be just about ideal for the smaller big game with less recoil than the top four. bullet, as the following ballistic charts show. (We won't even bother with the 260 Rem., but it beats the 308 Win, too.). But my objective is not to denigrate anyone's pet round, so please don't shoot the piano player. Midway USA currently offers 125 different .308 Win. The longer and more tapered the shape in any given weight and the narrower the diameter, the higher the B.C. The 7mm-08 case is just the 308 case necked down to hold the narrower bullet. Re: 243 vs 7mm08 vs 308 vs 30-06 vs 270 My preferrence is for the .270 Win. The 7mm-08 has a little less recoil than the .308. Thread starter western; Start date Feb 23, 2018; Feb 23, 2018 #1 W. western Senior Member. Starting in 2017, shooters were... Want to get into the long-range game and not go broke? The 300WM AI mag feed the .284 just fine ( 3.20" OAL with 162 A-max). 178-grain projectile, isn't going to outperform a 7mm-08 with a similar high B.C. Run the ballistics, shoot the bullets, look at the holes -- and the truth shall set you free. Next Last. Still haven't shot anything with it, but I have lugged it up and down … Email this Page. Downsizing from .270 to 7mm-08 or .308 for elk. Reply. Unfortunately it is easy to take the above comment out of context. Both are great rounds for medium to large game at short ranges. But, seriously, you can compare similar weight, similar shape bullets between these two short-action cartridges all day and the results are the same. Many have called it the perfect whitetail round. Calibres, cartridges, ballistics tables and ammunition information. I think its a dandy deer slayer. While assessing different cartridges, you could have a general idea about their characteristics if you carefully research their development history. Keith Feeley of Tactical Solutions sat down with Michael Bane at SHOT Show 2018 to talk about the new X-Ring Takedown SBR .22LR rifle. Hello, I am getting into long range target shooting and rarely deer hunting. 3 Posts . The hunt is the thing. A 150-grain 7mm Nosler Partition bullet, for example, has a G1 ballistic coefficient of .456 and a sectional density of .266. Therefore, the 7mm-08 has less recoil, a flatter trajectory, penetrates better, and has less wind drift at typical hunting ranges. Richard Mann tries to defend his beloved 308 Winchester against the ballistically superior 7mm-08 Remington championed by Ron Spomer. Both cartridges are extremely similar, and you have to canvas a lot of different rounds and split hairs to find significant differences in ballistic performance. 7mm-08 RemingtonSometime in 1958, a certain 7mm/308 Winchester wildcat round was developed and as the name suggests, people made it simply by necking down a standar… A 7mm-08 and a .300 Magnum might be an example of such a two rifle battery. bullets in their weight classes on the market. Moderator. Practical rifle marksmanship depends on following these five fundamentals. I ask that as 7mm-08 is a fine short to mid range cartridge for any calibre disciplines, but outclassed for long-range F-Class when up against larger numbers such as the 6.5-284, 7mm WSM and SAUM..308W on the other hand has its own class (F/TR) within the discipline shared only with.223 Rem, making it easier to be competitive using it within its niche. 7mm-08 vs .308 win? It shoots harder (more energy,) flatter and drifts less. With this load, the .308 load has 100 more foot-pounds of energy at the muzzle, but at 400 yards the 7mm-08, with its more aerodynamic bullet, actually has almost a 100 ft.-lbs. Remington’s parent case is actually .308 Winchester and its closely related .260 Remington is also based on a 308 cartridge. So what are some of your stories. Joined Feb 12, 2018 Messages 287 Location South Dakota. It was devised by necking down the .308 Winchester caliber’s neck, in order for the overall bullet to have a smaller diameter. Thanks! This would indicate the 7mm-08 is the better of the two cartridges, but demand for the .308 says otherwise. 7mm-08 vs Black Bears. Those looking to explore precision rifle shooting without going broke will be well served by Daniel Defense's new Delta 5. It draws fans from competitive shooting, hunting and tactical disciplines, and in terms of rifle availability, the .308 is the clear winner, with plenty of semiautos, lever actions and even pumps—plus bolt guns of every flavor, from heavy-barreled tactical guns to lightweight mountain rifles. Please note, the following information reflects the estimated average ballistics for each caliber and does not pertain to a particular manufacturer, bullet weight, 8 posts • Page 1 of 1. The 7mm-08 case is just slightly longer than the parent.308—2.035 inches vs. 2.015 inches—but maintains the same 20-degree shoulder of the.308 Winchester. Lots of very good information on this forum about hunting big game with the 7mm-08. This can be debated, splitting the hairs and picked apart until we all go to our graves. bullet faster. All Rights Reserved. What might sway some shooters to the 7mm-08 Rem. is it’s slightly reduced recoil. 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Westport To Achill Island, Patriotic Quilt Kits, Sore Throat From Polyurethane, Why Does My Dog Poop Immediately After Eating, Spiderman Face Mask, Eyes Pealed Or Peeled, Fsu Phone Number, …"> Political Allocation. Aug 7, 2008 #1 F. foreign Well-Known Member. Announced in 1958, the .264 and .338 Winchester magnums hit the market in 1959 amid one of the... For decades, things were quiet on the .22 centerfire front. Similar Threads: Thread: Thread Starter: Forum: Replies: Last Post: … The 7mm-08 Remington shares the same 20-degree shoulder angle and datum line of the.308 Winchester, but the case measures 2.035 inches versus the.308’s 2.015 inches. Switch to Threaded Mode . Typical .308 bullets have more frontal surface area and carry more energy down range though. Since the 7mm-08 and .308 share the same parent case with almost identical capacities, this is more a battle of 7mm versus .30 caliber projectiles than it is about case design. All Rights Reserved. OSG's Lynn Burkhead and Ruger's Matt WIlson kick off SHOT Show 2018 by taking a look at the Ruger Predator. You can expect to pay between $1.25 and $1.50 per shot on average. Didn't mean to rub it in. For the 7mm-08 vs .308, there is not a whole lot of differences in their applications. .545, zeroed at 230 yards. To get started, click the link below to visit mymagnow.com and learn how to access your digital magazine. The 7mm-08 Remington cartridge was introduced in the 1980s. Go. The .300 Blackout is here to stay, and we take some time to look at new technology surrounding this cartridge. I have a sportered swede 94 (got it after it had been chopped by somebody else!) Wondering what gun kicks harder 7mm-08 or a .270, thinking about what gun to get my wife. advantage over the .308 load and shoots half-an-inch flatter at that distance when zeroed at 200 yards. Subscriber Services. Merry Christmas & Happy New Year HT! Do any of you have experience using a 7mm-08 on Black Bears? Again. Joined Sep 27, 2010 Messages 7,612 Location tn. I can not decide whether to buy a 6.5 Creedmoor, 7mm-08, or .308. Commercial hunting loads for the 7mm-08 have bullets that range up to 160 grains while .308 ammunition tops at about 185 grains, and with bullets from 150 to 160 grains, the 7mm-08 will outperform the .308. We will be comparing two of the highest B.C. 2 reasons for this, one being the 7mm BC is hands down way better then.30 cal, and for two, smaller calibers with smaller bullets are usually faster, couple this with the better BC and it becomes easy to see why the 7-08 is better then the.308 The shoulder origin distance and overall case length are slightly adjusted to maintain a case neck that is at least one bullet diameter in length. bullets on today's market.This doesn't mean the 308 Win. SIG SAUER adds to its Elite Match ammo line with the 30-06 Springfield. The .30 caliber remains the most popular bullet diameter for U.S. hunters, and as such, there are more bullet options. If you stop at the local gas and grocery store to pick up ammo, your odds of finding .308 are better than your chances of finding 7mm-08 ammo. Add a .308 or .30-06 to the aforementioned 7mm-08 and .300 Win. would  "...out shoot your 7m08 or 260 all day with my 308 178 gr at 1000 yards. Ballistically the 7-08 is hands down the better LR cartridge then the.308 Win. Next Last. "No, it wouldn't. My … Discussion Starter • #1 • Dec 21, 2017. In truth, these are both great cartridges. The 308 Winchester -- efficient and popular though it may be -- just can't outmuscle its descendent, the 7mm-08. Given these two projectiles of the same weight fired at the same velocity, the 7mm bullet will buck wind better, shoot flatter and penetrate deeper. That being said, if I were a "one gun" person and planned on hunting both deer sized game and heavier animals I would opt for the .308. It's an all around cartridge because it's good for long … .....Either will work fine. 1 of 2 Go to page. Remember, B.C. A 7mm-08 load with a maximum charge of IMR 4895 powder will push a 150-grain Partition bullet at 2,750 fps from the muzzle, according to Nosler’s Reloading Guide 8. I have a Stevens 200 with 22" barrel. Thread starter Mainer207; Start date Oct 22, 2019; Oct 22, 2019 #1 Mainer207 Active member. And there you have it, the winner and still champion, 7mm-08! ©2020 Outdoor Sportsman Group. Copyright Ron Spomer Outdoors © document.write(new Date().getFullYear()) The .30-30 Win. Next, we pit subsonic rivals against each other before stretching the legs of this CQB round out to 600 yards from a short 9-inch barrel. Thread starter knightrider; Start date Aug 5, 2016; 1; 2; Next. Aug 6, 2016 #2 ImThere Well-Known Member. But with the right type of bullets, the Remington could take down small and medium deer with ease. They are long and heavy for caliber. 11-21-2010, 09:54. Basically, Remington intended the caliber to be able to provide lesser recoil than a .308 while still being large and powerful enough to kill wild North American game effectively at long distances. Some prefer the 7mm and some would prefer the 308. Now, the gentleman himself and his rifle might prove more accurate than I and my rifle, but his 308 Winchester, even with a high B.C. 6.5 Creedmoor As standardized, 7mm-08 case dimensions stay very close to the .308 Win. The… Switch to Hybrid Mode. with some of the sleekest, most efficient, low-drag, high B.C. The 7mm-08 Remington shoots lighter, smaller diameter, and more aerodynamic bullets with a higher sectional density faster than bullets used by the .308 Winchester. It also spawned an entire family of cartridges. The 7/08 is a little flatter shooting, while the 308 offers a more versatile bullet weight selection from 110gr to 220 gr. In a 0.308 round in use, 7mm-08 takes a close second place in polarity with 0.243 Winchester is taking the first spot. is a product of a projectile's mass (weight,) form (shape,) and diameter. LuJon. The .308 comes closer to 7mm-08 trajectories with heavier bullets, but at the cost of increased recoil over the 7mm cartridge. This means you have the option to read your magazine on most popular phones and tablets. It ticks people off, as revealed in the comments posted on my You Tube video that compares the 7mm-08 Remington, 308 Winchester and 260 Remington.I guess if I owned a rifle in 308 Winchester and loved it to pieces, I'd resent some smart ass like Spomer pointing out that there are better options. Please note, the following information reflects the estimated average ballistics for each caliber and does not pertain to a particular manufacturer, bullet weight, Cartridge Celebrates 125 Years, Berger Long Range Hybrid Target Bullet Review, Delta 5 - Daniel Defense's New Precision Bolt Action Rifle, Ruger Launches New American Rifle Predator in 6.5 Grendel, Tactical Solutions Introduces New X-Ring Takedown SBR Rifle. It could be argued the .308 is better suited for large game thanks to heavier bullets, but it could also be argued the 7mm-08, with its lighter, faster, flatter-shooting bullets and less recoil, is better for medium game and varmints. Powder capacity remains the same, so the 7mm-08 propels a lighter, narrower, higher B.C. I see lots of shooters like the like the 7mm-08 for reduced recoil. However, why stop at two guns when you could buy three? In the above comparison, the 162-grain Hornady ELD-Match wins because its more ballistically efficient AND lighter weight. The following ammunition cartridge ballistics information and chart can be used to approximately compare .30-30 Winchester vs 7mm-08 Remington ammo rounds. But why? Dec 24, 2016 #2 F. F250 Well-known member. The .308 comes closer to 7mm-08 trajectories with heavier bullets, but at the … Yes, there are plenty of new and used 7mm-08s, but the number doesn’t begin to approach the vast array of .308s. .652, zeroed at 230 yards. A 150-grain .308 Partition, by contrast, has a G1 BC of just .387 and an SD of .226. loads, compared to just 27 7mm-08s. 308 Winchester, Hornady 178-grain ELD-X, B.C. 7mm-08 vs 308. 7mm-08 vs .308 win? Hey ya’ll, I have a bear tag along with my NY deer tag, and I’ve got a few spots where the bears seem to be showing up a lot on camera. I'm merely shining the hard light of reality onto what is often a murky world -- the world of centerfire rifle cartridges and ballistic performance. Click on a term to search for related topics. It has earned a reputation as a "giant killer" in Washington from those who are using it on the big elk up there. I also really like the 6.5x55 Swede - I think that's about the ideal deer sized caliber. Joined Dec 9, 2011 Messages 706 Location Vermont. The .222 Rem. Thread starter foreign; Start date Aug 7, 2008; Help Support Long Range Hunting : Join the LRH Team or . Nothing personal against the 308 Winchester. All RifleShooter subscribers now have digital access to their magazine content. A max charge of the same powder will push a 150-grain .308 Partition bullet at 2,802 fps. Good round for younger folks, women and those with physical problems. Guns and ammo are just the tools. |   7mm-08 vs .270 11-21-2010, 09:46. Wind drift for the 7mm-08 load is 2.4 inches less at 400 yards than it is for the .308, too. But that doesn't make it better than the 7mm-08.A viewer recently wrote that his 308 Win. I would expect them to be pretty similar with the 7-08 offering perhaps a bit more versatility in loads for moose. It hits harder than the .30-30 but drops and drifts a lot less. and the more effectively that bullet will resist atmospheric drag. 7mm-08 Remington, Hornady 162-grain ELD Match, B.C. bullet faster. Powder capacity remains the same, so the 7mm-08 propels a lighter, narrower, higher B.C. The .308 case gave wildcatters fresh clay to sculpt, and within a decade of the .308’s release, somebody came up with the 7mm-.308, a necked-down version of the .308 that held 7mm bullets. Tags: None. The 7mm-08 case is just the 308 case necked down to hold the narrower bullet. With the new Hunter rifle, Ruger takes its popular Ruger American rifle line to the next level. Thread Tools: Show Printable Version. The cartridge offered ballistics that nipped at the .30-06’s heels from a shorter action, and that made the .308 a popular chambering option for bolt-action, semiauto, lever-action and slide-action rifles. is not only a classic round. The 7mm08 is often promoted as having a flatter trajectory than the parent .308 while producing less recoil. In terms of cost, both of these rounds are similarly priced. Between the .308 and 7mm-08, which would you choose and why? 1; 2; 3; Next. Go. I've been shooting a Weatherby Vanguard in .270 Win for a couple of years now since I first started getting into shooting. This efficient little round is capable of taking any game in the world -- and probably already has. Mag. What was the main appeal of the 7mm at the time? It's just that the 7mm-08 Remington a more ballistically efficient cartridge.Perhaps I should apologize for pointing this out so often (like in this blog.) Like the 7mm08, the .308 can be loaded with a range of high BC projectiles which produce desirable trajectories and both are exceptionally useful cartridges. Let's hear it pros and cons . If you dive into the historical developments of the 6.5 Creedmoor round vs the 7mm-08, you will notice how the cartridges are somehow related to .308 Winchester. It can't help but win.While Ron Spomer enjoys investigating the relative performance characteristics of different cartridges, rifles and bullets, he'll happily shoot and hunt with any. Aug 5, 2016 #1 K. knightrider Active Member. The 7mm-08’s best “feature” is its near perfect balance of speed, penetration, handiness, and tolerable recoil almost identical to a .308 Win. Listed by caliber, here's a look at what big game rifle cartridges are trending upward, and... Give a Gift   is no good and you should kick yourself for owning one. Yes, the 7mm-08 defeats 308. New 30-06 Springfield Elite Match Ammo from SIG SAUER, .222 Remington Rifle Cartridge – Family Portrait, .30-30 Win. And it won against a bullet 16 grains heavier, which means less recoil in rifles of the same weight.Oops. Hey, I'm sorry, but physics is physics and truth is truth. Commercial hunting loads for the 7mm-08 have bullets that range up to 160 grains while .308 ammunition tops at about 185 grains, and with bullets from 150 to 160 grains, the 7mm-08 will outperform the .308. In 1980, Remington decided there was consumer demand for a commercial version of the 7mm-.308 wildcat, and the 7mm-08 Rem. 1 of 3 Go to page. Winchester launched its .308, the sporting version of the 7.62x51 NATO military round, in 1952. My wife has taken elk and whitetails with hers in the Browning X … Joined Jan 3, 2019 Messages 205 Location New York . When you get out past 300 yards, the stopping power is still there, but the changes in trajectory … Rifleshooter Online Editors - April 03, 2019. Joined Jun 26, 2008 Messages 424 Location christchurch, nz. The .300 Magnum would be better on the biggest game than the top four and the 7mm-08 would be just about ideal for the smaller big game with less recoil than the top four. bullet, as the following ballistic charts show. (We won't even bother with the 260 Rem., but it beats the 308 Win, too.). But my objective is not to denigrate anyone's pet round, so please don't shoot the piano player. Midway USA currently offers 125 different .308 Win. The longer and more tapered the shape in any given weight and the narrower the diameter, the higher the B.C. The 7mm-08 case is just the 308 case necked down to hold the narrower bullet. Re: 243 vs 7mm08 vs 308 vs 30-06 vs 270 My preferrence is for the .270 Win. The 7mm-08 has a little less recoil than the .308. Thread starter western; Start date Feb 23, 2018; Feb 23, 2018 #1 W. western Senior Member. Starting in 2017, shooters were... Want to get into the long-range game and not go broke? The 300WM AI mag feed the .284 just fine ( 3.20" OAL with 162 A-max). 178-grain projectile, isn't going to outperform a 7mm-08 with a similar high B.C. Run the ballistics, shoot the bullets, look at the holes -- and the truth shall set you free. Next Last. Still haven't shot anything with it, but I have lugged it up and down … Email this Page. Downsizing from .270 to 7mm-08 or .308 for elk. Reply. Unfortunately it is easy to take the above comment out of context. Both are great rounds for medium to large game at short ranges. But, seriously, you can compare similar weight, similar shape bullets between these two short-action cartridges all day and the results are the same. Many have called it the perfect whitetail round. Calibres, cartridges, ballistics tables and ammunition information. I think its a dandy deer slayer. While assessing different cartridges, you could have a general idea about their characteristics if you carefully research their development history. Keith Feeley of Tactical Solutions sat down with Michael Bane at SHOT Show 2018 to talk about the new X-Ring Takedown SBR .22LR rifle. Hello, I am getting into long range target shooting and rarely deer hunting. 3 Posts . The hunt is the thing. A 150-grain 7mm Nosler Partition bullet, for example, has a G1 ballistic coefficient of .456 and a sectional density of .266. Therefore, the 7mm-08 has less recoil, a flatter trajectory, penetrates better, and has less wind drift at typical hunting ranges. Richard Mann tries to defend his beloved 308 Winchester against the ballistically superior 7mm-08 Remington championed by Ron Spomer. Both cartridges are extremely similar, and you have to canvas a lot of different rounds and split hairs to find significant differences in ballistic performance. 7mm-08 RemingtonSometime in 1958, a certain 7mm/308 Winchester wildcat round was developed and as the name suggests, people made it simply by necking down a standar… A 7mm-08 and a .300 Magnum might be an example of such a two rifle battery. bullets in their weight classes on the market. Moderator. Practical rifle marksmanship depends on following these five fundamentals. I ask that as 7mm-08 is a fine short to mid range cartridge for any calibre disciplines, but outclassed for long-range F-Class when up against larger numbers such as the 6.5-284, 7mm WSM and SAUM..308W on the other hand has its own class (F/TR) within the discipline shared only with.223 Rem, making it easier to be competitive using it within its niche. 7mm-08 vs .308 win? It shoots harder (more energy,) flatter and drifts less. With this load, the .308 load has 100 more foot-pounds of energy at the muzzle, but at 400 yards the 7mm-08, with its more aerodynamic bullet, actually has almost a 100 ft.-lbs. Remington’s parent case is actually .308 Winchester and its closely related .260 Remington is also based on a 308 cartridge. So what are some of your stories. Joined Feb 12, 2018 Messages 287 Location South Dakota. It was devised by necking down the .308 Winchester caliber’s neck, in order for the overall bullet to have a smaller diameter. Thanks! This would indicate the 7mm-08 is the better of the two cartridges, but demand for the .308 says otherwise. 7mm-08 vs Black Bears. Those looking to explore precision rifle shooting without going broke will be well served by Daniel Defense's new Delta 5. It draws fans from competitive shooting, hunting and tactical disciplines, and in terms of rifle availability, the .308 is the clear winner, with plenty of semiautos, lever actions and even pumps—plus bolt guns of every flavor, from heavy-barreled tactical guns to lightweight mountain rifles. Please note, the following information reflects the estimated average ballistics for each caliber and does not pertain to a particular manufacturer, bullet weight, 8 posts • Page 1 of 1. The 7mm-08 case is just slightly longer than the parent.308—2.035 inches vs. 2.015 inches—but maintains the same 20-degree shoulder of the.308 Winchester. Lots of very good information on this forum about hunting big game with the 7mm-08. This can be debated, splitting the hairs and picked apart until we all go to our graves. bullet faster. All Rights Reserved. What might sway some shooters to the 7mm-08 Rem. is it’s slightly reduced recoil. 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Wind drift for the 7mm-08 load is 2.4 inches less at 400 yards than it is for the .308, too. Always. The following ammunition cartridge ballistics information and chart can be used to approximately compare .300 AAC Blackout vs 7mm-08 Remington ammo rounds. Sorry. The 7mm-08 Remington is the superior ballistic performer. And it can be chambered in similarly short, light, fast-handling rifles, although most 7mm-08s are bolts rather than levers. Join Date: Mar 2007; Posts: 11422; Share Tweet #2. Here are a couple of details that you should remember about 7mm-08 Remington and 6.5 Creedmoor. Display Modes: Linear Mode. Hunters appreciated the cartridge’s mild recoil, low cost, the availability and selection of .308 bullets as well as its effectiveness on game. Standardized by Remington in 1980, the 7mm-08 Remington uses a modified.308 Winchester case necked down to shoot 7mm bullets. was born. That gap is thin, though, and the 7mm bullets offer higher sectional densities and ballistic coefficients. Still. by Ken » Sat Jul 13, 2013 6:53 am Hey guys, I'm looking to get a bigger game rifle than my 243 and am trying to decide between 7mm-08 and .308 win. 7mm08 vs .308. 308 vs 7mm magnum, 7 mag vs 308, 7mm mag accuracy, 7mm mag vs 308, 7mm rem mag vs 308, 7mm vs 308, best 7mm mag rifle for accuracy. Or the 260 Remington, another direct descendent -- not even if you load that 308 Win. 1. It … In 7-pound rifles the 7mm puts out 17.18 foot-pounds free recoil, the 308 kicks with 17.94 f-p. Again, not a huge difference, but for some sensitive shooters… 7mm-08 vs 308. The 308 is throttled by a case that just can't hold enough powder to take advantage of heavy, high B.C., .308" bullets. Responsible Conservation > Political Allocation. Aug 7, 2008 #1 F. foreign Well-Known Member. Announced in 1958, the .264 and .338 Winchester magnums hit the market in 1959 amid one of the... For decades, things were quiet on the .22 centerfire front. Similar Threads: Thread: Thread Starter: Forum: Replies: Last Post: … The 7mm-08 Remington shares the same 20-degree shoulder angle and datum line of the.308 Winchester, but the case measures 2.035 inches versus the.308’s 2.015 inches. Switch to Threaded Mode . Typical .308 bullets have more frontal surface area and carry more energy down range though. Since the 7mm-08 and .308 share the same parent case with almost identical capacities, this is more a battle of 7mm versus .30 caliber projectiles than it is about case design. All Rights Reserved. OSG's Lynn Burkhead and Ruger's Matt WIlson kick off SHOT Show 2018 by taking a look at the Ruger Predator. You can expect to pay between $1.25 and $1.50 per shot on average. Didn't mean to rub it in. For the 7mm-08 vs .308, there is not a whole lot of differences in their applications. .545, zeroed at 230 yards. To get started, click the link below to visit mymagnow.com and learn how to access your digital magazine. The 7mm-08 Remington cartridge was introduced in the 1980s. Go. The .300 Blackout is here to stay, and we take some time to look at new technology surrounding this cartridge. I have a sportered swede 94 (got it after it had been chopped by somebody else!) Wondering what gun kicks harder 7mm-08 or a .270, thinking about what gun to get my wife. advantage over the .308 load and shoots half-an-inch flatter at that distance when zeroed at 200 yards. Subscriber Services. Merry Christmas & Happy New Year HT! Do any of you have experience using a 7mm-08 on Black Bears? Again. Joined Sep 27, 2010 Messages 7,612 Location tn. I can not decide whether to buy a 6.5 Creedmoor, 7mm-08, or .308. Commercial hunting loads for the 7mm-08 have bullets that range up to 160 grains while .308 ammunition tops at about 185 grains, and with bullets from 150 to 160 grains, the 7mm-08 will outperform the .308. We will be comparing two of the highest B.C. 2 reasons for this, one being the 7mm BC is hands down way better then.30 cal, and for two, smaller calibers with smaller bullets are usually faster, couple this with the better BC and it becomes easy to see why the 7-08 is better then the.308 The shoulder origin distance and overall case length are slightly adjusted to maintain a case neck that is at least one bullet diameter in length. bullets on today's market.This doesn't mean the 308 Win. SIG SAUER adds to its Elite Match ammo line with the 30-06 Springfield. The .30 caliber remains the most popular bullet diameter for U.S. hunters, and as such, there are more bullet options. If you stop at the local gas and grocery store to pick up ammo, your odds of finding .308 are better than your chances of finding 7mm-08 ammo. Add a .308 or .30-06 to the aforementioned 7mm-08 and .300 Win. would  "...out shoot your 7m08 or 260 all day with my 308 178 gr at 1000 yards. Ballistically the 7-08 is hands down the better LR cartridge then the.308 Win. Next Last. "No, it wouldn't. My … Discussion Starter • #1 • Dec 21, 2017. In truth, these are both great cartridges. The 308 Winchester -- efficient and popular though it may be -- just can't outmuscle its descendent, the 7mm-08. Given these two projectiles of the same weight fired at the same velocity, the 7mm bullet will buck wind better, shoot flatter and penetrate deeper. That being said, if I were a "one gun" person and planned on hunting both deer sized game and heavier animals I would opt for the .308. It's an all around cartridge because it's good for long … .....Either will work fine. 1 of 2 Go to page. Remember, B.C. A 7mm-08 load with a maximum charge of IMR 4895 powder will push a 150-grain Partition bullet at 2,750 fps from the muzzle, according to Nosler’s Reloading Guide 8. I have a Stevens 200 with 22" barrel. Thread starter Mainer207; Start date Oct 22, 2019; Oct 22, 2019 #1 Mainer207 Active member. And there you have it, the winner and still champion, 7mm-08! ©2020 Outdoor Sportsman Group. Copyright Ron Spomer Outdoors © document.write(new Date().getFullYear()) The .30-30 Win. Next, we pit subsonic rivals against each other before stretching the legs of this CQB round out to 600 yards from a short 9-inch barrel. Thread starter knightrider; Start date Aug 5, 2016; 1; 2; Next. Aug 6, 2016 #2 ImThere Well-Known Member. But with the right type of bullets, the Remington could take down small and medium deer with ease. They are long and heavy for caliber. 11-21-2010, 09:54. Basically, Remington intended the caliber to be able to provide lesser recoil than a .308 while still being large and powerful enough to kill wild North American game effectively at long distances. Some prefer the 7mm and some would prefer the 308. Now, the gentleman himself and his rifle might prove more accurate than I and my rifle, but his 308 Winchester, even with a high B.C. 6.5 Creedmoor As standardized, 7mm-08 case dimensions stay very close to the .308 Win. The… Switch to Hybrid Mode. with some of the sleekest, most efficient, low-drag, high B.C. The 7mm-08 Remington shoots lighter, smaller diameter, and more aerodynamic bullets with a higher sectional density faster than bullets used by the .308 Winchester. It also spawned an entire family of cartridges. The 7/08 is a little flatter shooting, while the 308 offers a more versatile bullet weight selection from 110gr to 220 gr. In a 0.308 round in use, 7mm-08 takes a close second place in polarity with 0.243 Winchester is taking the first spot. is a product of a projectile's mass (weight,) form (shape,) and diameter. LuJon. The .308 comes closer to 7mm-08 trajectories with heavier bullets, but at the cost of increased recoil over the 7mm cartridge. This means you have the option to read your magazine on most popular phones and tablets. It ticks people off, as revealed in the comments posted on my You Tube video that compares the 7mm-08 Remington, 308 Winchester and 260 Remington.I guess if I owned a rifle in 308 Winchester and loved it to pieces, I'd resent some smart ass like Spomer pointing out that there are better options. Please note, the following information reflects the estimated average ballistics for each caliber and does not pertain to a particular manufacturer, bullet weight, Cartridge Celebrates 125 Years, Berger Long Range Hybrid Target Bullet Review, Delta 5 - Daniel Defense's New Precision Bolt Action Rifle, Ruger Launches New American Rifle Predator in 6.5 Grendel, Tactical Solutions Introduces New X-Ring Takedown SBR Rifle. It could be argued the .308 is better suited for large game thanks to heavier bullets, but it could also be argued the 7mm-08, with its lighter, faster, flatter-shooting bullets and less recoil, is better for medium game and varmints. Powder capacity remains the same, so the 7mm-08 propels a lighter, narrower, higher B.C. I see lots of shooters like the like the 7mm-08 for reduced recoil. However, why stop at two guns when you could buy three? In the above comparison, the 162-grain Hornady ELD-Match wins because its more ballistically efficient AND lighter weight. The following ammunition cartridge ballistics information and chart can be used to approximately compare .30-30 Winchester vs 7mm-08 Remington ammo rounds. But why? Dec 24, 2016 #2 F. F250 Well-known member. The .308 comes closer to 7mm-08 trajectories with heavier bullets, but at the … Yes, there are plenty of new and used 7mm-08s, but the number doesn’t begin to approach the vast array of .308s. .652, zeroed at 230 yards. A 150-grain .308 Partition, by contrast, has a G1 BC of just .387 and an SD of .226. loads, compared to just 27 7mm-08s. 308 Winchester, Hornady 178-grain ELD-X, B.C. 7mm-08 vs 308. 7mm-08 vs .308 win? Hey ya’ll, I have a bear tag along with my NY deer tag, and I’ve got a few spots where the bears seem to be showing up a lot on camera. I'm merely shining the hard light of reality onto what is often a murky world -- the world of centerfire rifle cartridges and ballistic performance. Click on a term to search for related topics. It has earned a reputation as a "giant killer" in Washington from those who are using it on the big elk up there. I also really like the 6.5x55 Swede - I think that's about the ideal deer sized caliber. Joined Dec 9, 2011 Messages 706 Location Vermont. The .222 Rem. Thread starter foreign; Start date Aug 7, 2008; Help Support Long Range Hunting : Join the LRH Team or . Nothing personal against the 308 Winchester. All RifleShooter subscribers now have digital access to their magazine content. A max charge of the same powder will push a 150-grain .308 Partition bullet at 2,802 fps. Good round for younger folks, women and those with physical problems. Guns and ammo are just the tools. |   7mm-08 vs .270 11-21-2010, 09:46. Wind drift for the 7mm-08 load is 2.4 inches less at 400 yards than it is for the .308, too. But that doesn't make it better than the 7mm-08.A viewer recently wrote that his 308 Win. I would expect them to be pretty similar with the 7-08 offering perhaps a bit more versatility in loads for moose. It hits harder than the .30-30 but drops and drifts a lot less. and the more effectively that bullet will resist atmospheric drag. 7mm-08 Remington, Hornady 162-grain ELD Match, B.C. bullet faster. Powder capacity remains the same, so the 7mm-08 propels a lighter, narrower, higher B.C. The .308 case gave wildcatters fresh clay to sculpt, and within a decade of the .308’s release, somebody came up with the 7mm-.308, a necked-down version of the .308 that held 7mm bullets. Tags: None. The 7mm-08 case is just the 308 case necked down to hold the narrower bullet. With the new Hunter rifle, Ruger takes its popular Ruger American rifle line to the next level. Thread Tools: Show Printable Version. The cartridge offered ballistics that nipped at the .30-06’s heels from a shorter action, and that made the .308 a popular chambering option for bolt-action, semiauto, lever-action and slide-action rifles. is not only a classic round. The 7mm08 is often promoted as having a flatter trajectory than the parent .308 while producing less recoil. In terms of cost, both of these rounds are similarly priced. Between the .308 and 7mm-08, which would you choose and why? 1; 2; 3; Next. Go. I've been shooting a Weatherby Vanguard in .270 Win for a couple of years now since I first started getting into shooting. This efficient little round is capable of taking any game in the world -- and probably already has. Mag. What was the main appeal of the 7mm at the time? It's just that the 7mm-08 Remington a more ballistically efficient cartridge.Perhaps I should apologize for pointing this out so often (like in this blog.) Like the 7mm08, the .308 can be loaded with a range of high BC projectiles which produce desirable trajectories and both are exceptionally useful cartridges. Let's hear it pros and cons . If you dive into the historical developments of the 6.5 Creedmoor round vs the 7mm-08, you will notice how the cartridges are somehow related to .308 Winchester. It can't help but win.While Ron Spomer enjoys investigating the relative performance characteristics of different cartridges, rifles and bullets, he'll happily shoot and hunt with any. Aug 5, 2016 #1 K. knightrider Active Member. The 7mm-08’s best “feature” is its near perfect balance of speed, penetration, handiness, and tolerable recoil almost identical to a .308 Win. Listed by caliber, here's a look at what big game rifle cartridges are trending upward, and... Give a Gift   is no good and you should kick yourself for owning one. Yes, the 7mm-08 defeats 308. New 30-06 Springfield Elite Match Ammo from SIG SAUER, .222 Remington Rifle Cartridge – Family Portrait, .30-30 Win. And it won against a bullet 16 grains heavier, which means less recoil in rifles of the same weight.Oops. Hey, I'm sorry, but physics is physics and truth is truth. Commercial hunting loads for the 7mm-08 have bullets that range up to 160 grains while .308 ammunition tops at about 185 grains, and with bullets from 150 to 160 grains, the 7mm-08 will outperform the .308. In 1980, Remington decided there was consumer demand for a commercial version of the 7mm-.308 wildcat, and the 7mm-08 Rem. 1 of 3 Go to page. Winchester launched its .308, the sporting version of the 7.62x51 NATO military round, in 1952. My wife has taken elk and whitetails with hers in the Browning X … Joined Jan 3, 2019 Messages 205 Location New York . When you get out past 300 yards, the stopping power is still there, but the changes in trajectory … Rifleshooter Online Editors - April 03, 2019. Joined Jun 26, 2008 Messages 424 Location christchurch, nz. The .300 Magnum would be better on the biggest game than the top four and the 7mm-08 would be just about ideal for the smaller big game with less recoil than the top four. bullet, as the following ballistic charts show. (We won't even bother with the 260 Rem., but it beats the 308 Win, too.). But my objective is not to denigrate anyone's pet round, so please don't shoot the piano player. Midway USA currently offers 125 different .308 Win. The longer and more tapered the shape in any given weight and the narrower the diameter, the higher the B.C. The 7mm-08 case is just the 308 case necked down to hold the narrower bullet. Re: 243 vs 7mm08 vs 308 vs 30-06 vs 270 My preferrence is for the .270 Win. The 7mm-08 has a little less recoil than the .308. Thread starter western; Start date Feb 23, 2018; Feb 23, 2018 #1 W. western Senior Member. Starting in 2017, shooters were... Want to get into the long-range game and not go broke? The 300WM AI mag feed the .284 just fine ( 3.20" OAL with 162 A-max). 178-grain projectile, isn't going to outperform a 7mm-08 with a similar high B.C. Run the ballistics, shoot the bullets, look at the holes -- and the truth shall set you free. Next Last. Still haven't shot anything with it, but I have lugged it up and down … Email this Page. Downsizing from .270 to 7mm-08 or .308 for elk. Reply. Unfortunately it is easy to take the above comment out of context. Both are great rounds for medium to large game at short ranges. But, seriously, you can compare similar weight, similar shape bullets between these two short-action cartridges all day and the results are the same. Many have called it the perfect whitetail round. Calibres, cartridges, ballistics tables and ammunition information. I think its a dandy deer slayer. While assessing different cartridges, you could have a general idea about their characteristics if you carefully research their development history. Keith Feeley of Tactical Solutions sat down with Michael Bane at SHOT Show 2018 to talk about the new X-Ring Takedown SBR .22LR rifle. Hello, I am getting into long range target shooting and rarely deer hunting. 3 Posts . The hunt is the thing. A 150-grain 7mm Nosler Partition bullet, for example, has a G1 ballistic coefficient of .456 and a sectional density of .266. Therefore, the 7mm-08 has less recoil, a flatter trajectory, penetrates better, and has less wind drift at typical hunting ranges. Richard Mann tries to defend his beloved 308 Winchester against the ballistically superior 7mm-08 Remington championed by Ron Spomer. Both cartridges are extremely similar, and you have to canvas a lot of different rounds and split hairs to find significant differences in ballistic performance. 7mm-08 RemingtonSometime in 1958, a certain 7mm/308 Winchester wildcat round was developed and as the name suggests, people made it simply by necking down a standar… A 7mm-08 and a .300 Magnum might be an example of such a two rifle battery. bullets in their weight classes on the market. Moderator. Practical rifle marksmanship depends on following these five fundamentals. I ask that as 7mm-08 is a fine short to mid range cartridge for any calibre disciplines, but outclassed for long-range F-Class when up against larger numbers such as the 6.5-284, 7mm WSM and SAUM..308W on the other hand has its own class (F/TR) within the discipline shared only with.223 Rem, making it easier to be competitive using it within its niche. 7mm-08 vs .308 win? It shoots harder (more energy,) flatter and drifts less. With this load, the .308 load has 100 more foot-pounds of energy at the muzzle, but at 400 yards the 7mm-08, with its more aerodynamic bullet, actually has almost a 100 ft.-lbs. Remington’s parent case is actually .308 Winchester and its closely related .260 Remington is also based on a 308 cartridge. So what are some of your stories. Joined Feb 12, 2018 Messages 287 Location South Dakota. It was devised by necking down the .308 Winchester caliber’s neck, in order for the overall bullet to have a smaller diameter. Thanks! This would indicate the 7mm-08 is the better of the two cartridges, but demand for the .308 says otherwise. 7mm-08 vs Black Bears. Those looking to explore precision rifle shooting without going broke will be well served by Daniel Defense's new Delta 5. It draws fans from competitive shooting, hunting and tactical disciplines, and in terms of rifle availability, the .308 is the clear winner, with plenty of semiautos, lever actions and even pumps—plus bolt guns of every flavor, from heavy-barreled tactical guns to lightweight mountain rifles. Please note, the following information reflects the estimated average ballistics for each caliber and does not pertain to a particular manufacturer, bullet weight, 8 posts • Page 1 of 1. The 7mm-08 case is just slightly longer than the parent.308—2.035 inches vs. 2.015 inches—but maintains the same 20-degree shoulder of the.308 Winchester. Lots of very good information on this forum about hunting big game with the 7mm-08. This can be debated, splitting the hairs and picked apart until we all go to our graves. bullet faster. All Rights Reserved. What might sway some shooters to the 7mm-08 Rem. is it’s slightly reduced recoil. 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